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	<title>Comments on: Designing Sacred Architecture through the Senses</title>
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		<title>By: Nold Egenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nold Egenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Macroft (cit.).
&quot;Any discussion about spiritual architecture needs to take account of a supernatural spirit realm, - which may or may not exist. If a supernatural spirit realm does not exist your thesis has value to the extent that you explore the question. If a supernatural spirit realm does exist your comprehension of the sacred (and therefore sacred architecture) will only be a veneer.&quot;

Studying as &#039;(topo-)semantic/ symbolic architecture&#039; what missionaries over hundreds of years all over the world devalued as &#039;fetish&#039; and the like, in the framework of &#039;primitive religion&#039; (primitive construction - which was of high value for traditional societies, because it implied &#039;ancient&#039;) [primitive materiality combined with sacrality being &#039;primitive&#039; in the concept of Western absolute spirituality on the side of the missionaries!] can lead easily to a contrasting hypothesis: that neolithic &#039;semantic architecture&#039; with an elementary aesthetics provided the catgorically polar spirituality (harmony of heaven and earth) which later became considered as theocratic constitution (early city states) and later as &quot;religion&quot;.
Note that religion (&quot;supernatural spirit realm&quot;) offers a history of 2-3000 years, whereas constructive behavior looks back on an existence of about 20 million years!

See: Egenter N. : Architectural Anthropology - Semantic and symbolic architecture - An architectural ethnological survey into hundred villages of central Japan. Structura Mundi, Lausanne 1994

See also IMPLOSION: http://home.worldcom.ch/~negenter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Macroft (cit.).<br />
&#8220;Any discussion about spiritual architecture needs to take account of a supernatural spirit realm, &#8211; which may or may not exist. If a supernatural spirit realm does not exist your thesis has value to the extent that you explore the question. If a supernatural spirit realm does exist your comprehension of the sacred (and therefore sacred architecture) will only be a veneer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Studying as &#8216;(topo-)semantic/ symbolic architecture&#8217; what missionaries over hundreds of years all over the world devalued as &#8216;fetish&#8217; and the like, in the framework of &#8216;primitive religion&#8217; (primitive construction &#8211; which was of high value for traditional societies, because it implied &#8216;ancient&#8217;) [primitive materiality combined with sacrality being 'primitive' in the concept of Western absolute spirituality on the side of the missionaries!] can lead easily to a contrasting hypothesis: that neolithic &#8217;semantic architecture&#8217; with an elementary aesthetics provided the catgorically polar spirituality (harmony of heaven and earth) which later became considered as theocratic constitution (early city states) and later as &#8220;religion&#8221;.<br />
Note that religion (&#8221;supernatural spirit realm&#8221;) offers a history of 2-3000 years, whereas constructive behavior looks back on an existence of about 20 million years!</p>
<p>See: Egenter N. : Architectural Anthropology &#8211; Semantic and symbolic architecture &#8211; An architectural ethnological survey into hundred villages of central Japan. Structura Mundi, Lausanne 1994</p>
<p>See also IMPLOSION: <a href="http://home.worldcom.ch/~negenter" rel="nofollow">http://home.worldcom.ch/~negenter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marcroft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Marcroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting and intriguing question - What makes a place sacred. The obvious answer is that people make a place sacred, a bank, a laundry etc. People confer built structures with many ideas and attitudes and then the cockroaches crawl in to share the space.

I might be wrong but it looks as though you posit that &quot;spiritual&quot; is simply a result of bodily sensation/memory/collective memory and that architecture can act as a touchstone to release/extend &quot;important moments&quot;.  In this Albert Speer was a master, but his Architecture would be considered by many to be profane.
 
Any discussion about spiritual architecture needs to take account of a supernatural spirit realm, - which may or may not exist.    If a supernatural spirit realm does not exist your thesis has value to the extent that you explore the question.  If a supernatural spirit realm does exist your comprehension of the sacred (and therefore sacred architecture) will only be a veneer.  

Despite the insights of neuro-science (Ramachandran, Zeki et al) into vision and aesthetics, the perspective that such knowledge endows about the nature of our humanity, is that it is ultimately just a material existence.  I personally do not think we know enough to be able to say conclusively either way just at present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting and intriguing question &#8211; What makes a place sacred. The obvious answer is that people make a place sacred, a bank, a laundry etc. People confer built structures with many ideas and attitudes and then the cockroaches crawl in to share the space.</p>
<p>I might be wrong but it looks as though you posit that &#8220;spiritual&#8221; is simply a result of bodily sensation/memory/collective memory and that architecture can act as a touchstone to release/extend &#8220;important moments&#8221;.  In this Albert Speer was a master, but his Architecture would be considered by many to be profane.</p>
<p>Any discussion about spiritual architecture needs to take account of a supernatural spirit realm, &#8211; which may or may not exist.    If a supernatural spirit realm does not exist your thesis has value to the extent that you explore the question.  If a supernatural spirit realm does exist your comprehension of the sacred (and therefore sacred architecture) will only be a veneer.  </p>
<p>Despite the insights of neuro-science (Ramachandran, Zeki et al) into vision and aesthetics, the perspective that such knowledge endows about the nature of our humanity, is that it is ultimately just a material existence.  I personally do not think we know enough to be able to say conclusively either way just at present.</p>
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		<dc:creator>How Vertical Illusion Affects Perception in Architecture &#124; Sensing Architecture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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